Edited 1 times. Last edit by Rafa Ferrer on 28th October 2015 1:18pm 1Sign inorRegisterto rate and replyNicholas Lovell Founder, Gamesbrief5 years ago Paul, the rules about advertising to children have been in place for w very long time. I think they are broadly a good thing. This shouldn’t have come to a surprise to anyone.Although I note that it means that the ASA treat an promotion of your own stuff (I.e. Subscriptions or IAPs) will be treated as ads, and subject to the same rules. Which I think will still catch a few people out. 1Sign inorRegisterto rate and replyCurt Sampson Sofware Developer 0Sign inorRegisterto rate and replyJim Webb Executive Editor/Community Director, E-mpire Ltd. Co.5 years ago Seems like they may be working on it now or the traffic is bringing their servers down. Their web site is timing out. 5 years ago Craig: it’s because you want a lot of stuff. They simply need to get most things on sale at one point or another, and then you’ll find plenty of things to buy (and probably put on your pile of “games you’ll play one day”).I just noticed that I’ve passed 500 games owned on Steam. (Obviously most of these are unplayed.) I’m still going with the, “I’m just doing this to support the games industry” thing, along with a big dose of “it’s Humble Bundle’s fault!”, but this excuse is starting to smell of rotten fish…. 2Sign inorRegisterto rate and replyRafa Ferrer Localisation Manager, Red Comet Media5 years ago @John – I think that was just an ironic remark about how adults are sometimes as uneducated consumers as children. Which is spot on, but in any case it would mean we need more education as consumers to not get baited into buying all kinds of unnecesary crap, but nowhere did he suggest we need restrictions. 0Sign inorRegisterto rate and replySign in to contributeEmail addressPasswordSign in Need an account? Register now. 5 years ago @Rafa: Thanks for that update.Although, it’s awesomely hi-larious that kids are correctly deemed gullible and willing to spend any money they get, so protections are needed to keep them “safe”. But when those kids grow up into mature folk who binge spend like drunken sailors on home shopping, infomercial and other useless junk they get baited into whipping out their own cards for… well, they’re on their own as “responsible” adults. Hah! Mind Candy branded non-compliant by ASA for “direct exhortations to children”Update: Mind Candy responds, issues with ASA have been resolved Rachel WeberSenior EditorWednesday 28th October 2015Share this article Recommend Tweet ShareUpdateA Mind Candy spokesperson has been in touch with GamesIndustry.biz today to explain the unfortunate situation with the ASA, placing the blame on overlooked emails. Mind Candy has now been removed from the ASA’s list of non-compliant online advertisers.”It turns out that there was a breakdown in communication and we didn’t see the emails pertaining to the issues they had with the site and therefore did not have any opportunity to rectify the problems before the notice was published.Now we have spoken to the ASA and found out where the problems lie we are correcting them and they will be taking down the notice.We take our responsibilities with regards to our fans, especially children, very seriously and would never knowingly ignore the ASA or any directives relating to our responsibilities.”Original storyThe UK’s Advertising Standards Authority has named Mind Candy, makers of the Moshi Monster franchise, as a “non-compliant online advertiser” after it failed to respond to or act on its ruling concerning marketing to minors. In August the ASA ruled that Moshi Monsters “presented children with direct exhortations to purchase membership subscriptions in breach of the CAP [Committees of Advertising Practice] Code.” Specifically there were issues with elements of advertising like the phrase”Join for Exclusive Member Benefits”, the prominent “Join” buttons, and the “Become a Member Now!” text aimed at children. “The ad must not appear again in the form complained about. We told Mind Candy Ltd to ensure that future ads did not state “JOIN NOW” or contain other direct exhortations to purchase membership subscriptions,” said the ASA August ruling.”A quick look at the Moshi Monsters website today suggests that these elements are still in place. Related JobsSenior Game Designer – UE4 – AAA United Kingdom Amiqus GamesProgrammer – REMOTE – work with industry veterans! North West Amiqus GamesJunior Video Editor – GLOBAL publisher United Kingdom Amiqus GamesDiscover more jobs in games “In the absence of a response from Moshi Monsters, and in the continued presence of the imperative claims on the website, we took the decision on 27 October 2015 to place their company details on this section of the ASA website,” said the ASA. “These details shall remain in place until such time as Moshi Monsters has removed or appropriately amended the claims on the www.moshimonsters.com/membership website to ensure compliance with the CAP Code.”GamesIndustry.biz has reached out to Mind Candy for a response to the ASAs actions and will update this story if and when a statement is provided. Celebrating employer excellence in the video games industry8th July 2021Submit your company Sign up for The Daily Update and get the best of GamesIndustry.biz in your inbox. Enter your email addressMore storiesEA leans on Apex Legends and live services in fourth quarterQ4 and full year revenues close to flat and profits take a tumble, but publisher’s bookings still up double-digitsBy Brendan Sinclair 7 hours agoEA Play Live set for July 22Formerly E3-adjacent event moves to take place a month and half after the ESA’s showBy Jeffrey Rousseau 9 hours agoLatest comments (11)Paul Johnson Managing Director / Lead code monkey, Rubicon Development5 years ago What’s the actual problem being addressed by this?I presume we’ve not yet gone so far as to make it illegal to sell stuff to children, given all the bloody christmas toy ads apperaring on TV since september. So how come Mind Candy are suddenly the bad guys for selling their stuff? Edited 1 times. Last edit by Paul Johnson on 28th October 2015 1:57pm 2Sign inorRegisterto rate and replyGreg Wilcox Creator, Destroy All Fanboys! 3Sign inorRegisterto rate and replyGreg Wilcox Creator, Destroy All Fanboys! 4Sign inorRegisterto rate and replyRafa Ferrer Localisation Manager, Red Comet Media5 years ago Just for handiness, these are the rulings they have allegedly infringed:1.3 Marketing communications must be prepared with a sense of responsibility to consumers and to society.5.4.2 [Marketing communications addressed to or targeted directly at children] must not include a direct exhortation to children to buy an advertised product or persuade their parents or other adults to buy an advertised product for them.5.5 Marketing communications that contain a direct exhortation to buy a product via a direct-response mechanism must not be directly targeted at children. Direct-response mechanisms are those that allow consumers to place orders without face-to-face contact with the [email protected] the other hand… if it said “Join Now – Go Get Your Parents’ Credit Card!”, that might be the way to at least be more honest. ;DNot on their watch! They did cover that too:5.4.1 must not actively encourage children to make a nuisance of themselves to parents or others and must not undermine parental authorityI agree that children are much more likely to get misled into buying stuff than an adult, and through much simpler marketing tactics, and -whether you agree or not with the validity and effectiveness of the ruling- it seems the best way they found to prevent this is to forbid direct orders (as in “buy! join!”, etc.) to kids, but honest question from a mobile marketing illiterate… How do you do it without getting blacklisted? Or are you supposed not to target kids specifically, at all? 5 years ago From a redacted ASA training video:„Dad! After careful examining the patterns of interaction in that video game you gave me, I requisition an extension of my credit line to use consumption as a gateway to increase the efficiency of dopamine production in my brain leading to what outside observers might call a happy childhood. This is also likely to cause a 2.5% increase of longterm happiness within our family unit.“„Ok, Son, but have you calculated those figures against the desired level of patience you are conditioning yourself to? I don’t want the game to interfere with that“.„I have Dad and since I will delay the actual purchase to after dinner it will not be a problem as long as my liquidity situation improves in the next 10 minutes.“„Son, I’m proud of you. Here you go“. 2Sign inorRegisterto rate and replyCraig Page El Presidente, Awesome Enterprises5 years ago I wish the ASA could protect me from Steam sales. How is Valve so good at knowing what I want, then putting it on sale? 0Sign inorRegisterto rate and replyKlaus Preisinger Freelance Writing 5 years ago I’d venture a guess that in TV ads geared to kids, those kids still need to ask/beg/be good to get those toys because it’s the parents or other adults that buy them. Online in a game situation, I’d gather that same kid can click on something and join up without realizing there’s a lot more to it than just clicking on a button.On the other hand… if it said “Join Now – Go Get Your Parents’ Credit Card!”, that might be the way to at least be more honest. ;D 0Sign inorRegisterto rate and replyShow all comments (11)Paul Johnson Managing Director / Lead code monkey, Rubicon Development5 years agoOn the other hand… if it said “Join Now – Go Get Your Parents’ Credit Card!”, that might be the way to at least be more honest. ;DBut that’s it though isn’t it. Minors shouldn’t have credit cards and you can’t use pocket money, so begging the parents is the only option. Unless the parents have been grossly irresponsible.